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a concrete proposal for the construction of the line by co-operative efforts would, I hope, appeal to the Central Government as a friendly solution of the question.

I should add, with reference to the last paragraph of your despatch, that His Majesty's Consul-General at Yunnan-fu has already been instructed to desist from further action, with the view of securing a Concession for the construction of a line beyond Tengyueh.

از

This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government.]

CHINA RAILWAYS.

CONFIDENTIAL.

[May 26.]

SECTION 3.

I have, &c. (Signed) J. N JORDAN.

[18036]

No. 1.

Sir J. Jordan to Sir Edward Grey.--(Received May 26.)

(No. 171.) Sir,

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Peking, April 21, 1908. I HAVE the honour to transmit to you herewith copy of a despatch, with inclosure, from the Acting Consul-General at Mukden respecting the projected Changchun-Kirin Railway.

From this despatch it would appear that considerable progress has been made in the preliminary work which is necessary before the construction of this important branch line can be begun, and that the opposition to the joint Sino-Japanese survey, to which attention was drawn in my despatch No. 56 of the 3rd February last, has not been successful in delaying unduly the operations of the Surveying Commission.

I have, &c. (Signed) J. N. JORDAN.

gr

Inclosure 1 in No. 1,

(No. 35.) Sir,

Acting Consul-General Willis to Sir J. Jordan.

15

Mukden, April 13, 1908. WITH reference to my despatch No. 1 of the 16th January last, I have the honour to inclose, in translation, a paragraph from the "Shengking Daily Newspaper" of the 10th instant concerning the survey of the proposed Changchun and Kirin Railway. I am informed by Mr. Tao, the Commissioner in charge of the Mukden Foreign Office, that the facts as therein given are to the best of his knowledge accurate. He seemed to think, however, that there was some idea of surveying an alternative route.

Mr. Dawson Grone, the Commissioner of Customs at Mukden, who spent some months at Kiriu in the summer and autumn of 1907, tells me that the present route follows the line surveyed in 1906 by Sung Taotai. He further informed me that as far as the commercial interests of Kirin are concerned it would without doubt be more advantageous to turn the Lao Yeh Ling to the south and bring the railway to the western gate of the city, which is the centre of the commercial activity of the place.

This, I understand, was the original Russian scheme, but it seems that the natural difficulties of this route are greater and would appreciably increase the cost of the line.

Lian Hua Pao, where it is proposed to have the goods station, is about 3 miles to the north-east of the city, and is the spot marked off by the Chinese authorities for an international Settlement. It is somewhat difficult to understand why goods should be compulsorily conveyed 3 miles beyond their destination. However, the fact that a station for passengers is contemplated at the northern gate indicates some progress and appreciation of the great inconvenience caused by the position of the stations insisted upon by the Chinese authorities at the time of the construction of the Chinese Eastern Railway.

I have, &c.

(Signed)

ROBERT WILLIS.

[2972 cc-3]

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ན” 2 a concrete proposal for the construction of the line by co-operative efforts would, I hope, appeal to the Central Government as a friendly solution of the question. I should add, with reference to the last paragraph of your despatch, that His Majesty's Consul-General at Yunnan-fu has already been instructed to desist from further action, with the view of securing a Concession for the construction of a line beyond Tengyueh. از This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government.] CHINA RAILWAYS. CONFIDENTIAL. [May 26.] SECTION 3. I have, &c. (Signed) J. N JORDAN. [18036] No. 1. Sir J. Jordan to Sir Edward Grey.--(Received May 26.) (No. 171.) Sir, 74 Peking, April 21, 1908. I HAVE the honour to transmit to you herewith copy of a despatch, with inclosure, from the Acting Consul-General at Mukden respecting the projected Changchun-Kirin Railway. From this despatch it would appear that considerable progress has been made in the preliminary work which is necessary before the construction of this important branch line can be begun, and that the opposition to the joint Sino-Japanese survey, to which attention was drawn in my despatch No. 56 of the 3rd February last, has not been successful in delaying unduly the operations of the Surveying Commission. I have, &c. (Signed) J. N. JORDAN. gr Inclosure 1 in No. 1, (No. 35.) Sir, Acting Consul-General Willis to Sir J. Jordan. 15 Mukden, April 13, 1908. WITH reference to my despatch No. 1 of the 16th January last, I have the honour to inclose, in translation, a paragraph from the "Shengking Daily Newspaper" of the 10th instant concerning the survey of the proposed Changchun and Kirin Railway. I am informed by Mr. Tao, the Commissioner in charge of the Mukden Foreign Office, that the facts as therein given are to the best of his knowledge accurate. He seemed to think, however, that there was some idea of surveying an alternative route. Mr. Dawson Grone, the Commissioner of Customs at Mukden, who spent some months at Kiriu in the summer and autumn of 1907, tells me that the present route follows the line surveyed in 1906 by Sung Taotai. He further informed me that as far as the commercial interests of Kirin are concerned it would without doubt be more advantageous to turn the Lao Yeh Ling to the south and bring the railway to the western gate of the city, which is the centre of the commercial activity of the place. This, I understand, was the original Russian scheme, but it seems that the natural difficulties of this route are greater and would appreciably increase the cost of the line. Lian Hua Pao, where it is proposed to have the goods station, is about 3 miles to the north-east of the city, and is the spot marked off by the Chinese authorities for an international Settlement. It is somewhat difficult to understand why goods should be compulsorily conveyed 3 miles beyond their destination. However, the fact that a station for passengers is contemplated at the northern gate indicates some progress and appreciation of the great inconvenience caused by the position of the stations insisted upon by the Chinese authorities at the time of the construction of the Chinese Eastern Railway. I have, &c. (Signed) ROBERT WILLIS. [2972 cc-3]
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ན” 2 a concrete proposal for the construction of the line by co-operative efforts would, I hope, appeal to the Central Government as a friendly solution of the question. I should add, with reference to the last paragraph of your despatch, that His Majesty's Consul-General at Yunnan-fu has already been instructed to desist from further action, with the view of securing a Concession for the construction of a line beyond Tengyueh. از This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government.] CHINA RAILWAYS. CONFIDENTIAL. [May 26.] SECTION 3. I have, &c. (Signed) J. N JORDAN. [18036] No. 1. Sir J. Jordan to Sir Edward Grey.--(Received May 26.) (No. 171.) Sir, 74 Peking, April 21, 1908. I HAVE the honour to transmit to you herewith copy of a despatch, with inclosure, from the Acting Consul-General at Mukden respecting the projected Changchun-Kirin Railway. From this despatch it would appear that considerable progress has been made in the preliminary work which is necessary before the construction of this important branch line can be begun, and that the opposition to the joint Sino-Japanese survey, to which attention was drawn in my despatch No. 56 of the 3rd February last, has not been successful in delaying unduly the operations of the Surveying Commission. I have, &c. (Signed) J. N. JORDAN. gr Inclosure 1 in No. 1, (No. 35.) Sir, Acting Consul-General Willis to Sir J. Jordan. 15 Mukden, April 13, 1908. WITH reference to my despatch No. 1 of the 16th January last, I have the honour to inclose, in translation, a paragraph from the "Shengking Daily Newspaper" of the 10th instant concerning the survey of the proposed Changchun and Kirin Railway. I am informed by Mr. Tao, the Commissioner in charge of the Mukden Foreign Office, that the facts as therein given are to the best of his knowledge accurate. He seemed to think, however, that there was some idea of surveying an alternative route. Mr. Dawson Grone, the Commissioner of Customs at Mukden, who spent some months at Kiriu in the summer and autumn of 1907, tells me that the present route follows the line surveyed in 1906 by Sung Taotai. He further informed me that as far as the commercial interests of Kirin are concerned it would without doubt be more advantageous to turn the Lao Yeh Ling to the south and bring the railway to the western gate of the city, which is the centre of the commercial activity of the place. This, I understand, was the original Russian scheme, but it seems that the natural difficulties of this route are greater and would appreciably increase the cost of the line. Lian Hua Pao, where it is proposed to have the goods station, is about 3 miles to the north-east of the city, and is the spot marked off by the Chinese authorities for an international Settlement. It is somewhat difficult to understand why goods should be compulsorily conveyed 3 miles beyond their destination. However, the fact that a station for passengers is contemplated at the northern gate indicates some progress and appreciation of the great inconvenience caused by the position of the stations insisted upon by the Chinese authorities at the time of the construction of the Chinese Eastern Railway. I have, &c. (Signed) ROBERT WILLIS. [2972 cc-3]
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a concrete proposal for the construction of the line by co-operative efforts would, I hope, appeal to the Central Government as a friendly solution of the question.

I should add, with reference to the last paragraph of your despatch, that His Majesty's Consul-General at Yunnan-fu has already been instructed to desist from further action, with the view of securing a Concession for the construction of a line beyond Tengyueh.

از

This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government.]

CHINA RAILWAYS.

CONFIDENTIAL.

[May 26.]

SECTION 3.

I have, &c. (Signed) J. N JORDAN.

[18036]

No. 1.

Sir J. Jordan to Sir Edward Grey.--(Received May 26.)

(No. 171.) Sir,

74

Peking, April 21, 1908. I HAVE the honour to transmit to you herewith copy of a despatch, with inclosure, from the Acting Consul-General at Mukden respecting the projected Changchun-Kirin Railway.

From this despatch it would appear that considerable progress has been made in the preliminary work which is necessary before the construction of this important branch line can be begun, and that the opposition to the joint Sino-Japanese survey, to which attention was drawn in my despatch No. 56 of the 3rd February last, has not been successful in delaying unduly the operations of the Surveying Commission.

I have, &c. (Signed) J. N. JORDAN.

gr

Inclosure 1 in No. 1,

(No. 35.) Sir,

Acting Consul-General Willis to Sir J. Jordan.

15

Mukden, April 13, 1908. WITH reference to my despatch No. 1 of the 16th January last, I have the honour to inclose, in translation, a paragraph from the "Shengking Daily Newspaper" of the 10th instant concerning the survey of the proposed Changchun and Kirin Railway. I am informed by Mr. Tao, the Commissioner in charge of the Mukden Foreign Office, that the facts as therein given are to the best of his knowledge accurate. He seemed to think, however, that there was some idea of surveying an alternative route.

Mr. Dawson Grone, the Commissioner of Customs at Mukden, who spent some months at Kiriu in the summer and autumn of 1907, tells me that the present route follows the line surveyed in 1906 by Sung Taotai. He further informed me that as far as the commercial interests of Kirin are concerned it would without doubt be more advantageous to turn the Lao Yeh Ling to the south and bring the railway to the western gate of the city, which is the centre of the commercial activity of the place.

This, I understand, was the original Russian scheme, but it seems that the natural difficulties of this route are greater and would appreciably increase the cost of the line.

Lian Hua Pao, where it is proposed to have the goods station, is about 3 miles to the north-east of the city, and is the spot marked off by the Chinese authorities for an international Settlement. It is somewhat difficult to understand why goods should be compulsorily conveyed 3 miles beyond their destination. However, the fact that a station for passengers is contemplated at the northern gate indicates some progress and appreciation of the great inconvenience caused by the position of the stations insisted upon by the Chinese authorities at the time of the construction of the Chinese Eastern Railway.

I have, &c.

(Signed)

ROBERT WILLIS.

[2972 cc-3]

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